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	<title>Comments on: feel-good progressive evangelical leader getting old</title>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, the middle. You are correct, he is trying to straddle the middle, that is my critique. The problem is that while he is straddling the middle so as not to be polarizing, I just hear a lot of silence. Because he gets to get married, he gets respect, he doesn't worry if some "moral Christian" is going to kick his ass on the way home if he looks "too queer." 

I like a lot of things Wallis says, he want Christians to work to end poverty, and violence, and against racism and HIV/AIDS. He says that Jesus had a lot to say about social justice. I say, "Amen, you are right brother." But he is nearly silent when it is so called "Christians" that are bashing queer folk, I have a hard time hearing all that other good stuff. So, yeah, he isn't "anti-homosexual." Good for him but I don't hear much of a critique of that from him. 

I don't think I'm missing the point, I think I get it just fine, thank you, I just think he is wrong. 

Two quotes from Dr. King come to mind for me:
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." and "The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict." - MLK Jr.

Also, I'm very curious about this "homosexual lifestyle" you mention. What does that mean? Is it like the "heterosexual lifestyle?" Because I'm not so sure I'm in support of the "heterosexual lifestyle," what with all the adultery, domestic violence, and obsession with sex. I really would love to hear more about this "homosexual lifestyle" from someone who seems to know all about it. Do tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, the middle. You are correct, he is trying to straddle the middle, that is my critique. The problem is that while he is straddling the middle so as not to be polarizing, I just hear a lot of silence. Because he gets to get married, he gets respect, he doesn&#8217;t worry if some &#8220;moral Christian&#8221; is going to kick his ass on the way home if he looks &#8220;too queer.&#8221; </p>
<p>I like a lot of things Wallis says, he want Christians to work to end poverty, and violence, and against racism and HIV/AIDS. He says that Jesus had a lot to say about social justice. I say, &#8220;Amen, you are right brother.&#8221; But he is nearly silent when it is so called &#8220;Christians&#8221; that are bashing queer folk, I have a hard time hearing all that other good stuff. So, yeah, he isn&#8217;t &#8220;anti-homosexual.&#8221; Good for him but I don&#8217;t hear much of a critique of that from him. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m missing the point, I think I get it just fine, thank you, I just think he is wrong. </p>
<p>Two quotes from Dr. King come to mind for me:<br />
&#8220;In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.&#8221; and &#8220;The hottest place in Hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.&#8221; - MLK Jr.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m very curious about this &#8220;homosexual lifestyle&#8221; you mention. What does that mean? Is it like the &#8220;heterosexual lifestyle?&#8221; Because I&#8217;m not so sure I&#8217;m in support of the &#8220;heterosexual lifestyle,&#8221; what with all the adultery, domestic violence, and obsession with sex. I really would love to hear more about this &#8220;homosexual lifestyle&#8221; from someone who seems to know all about it. Do tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Pthunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pthunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're missing the point of what Wallis is trying to do. 

He's not trying to be left-wing here, he's specifically defining himself as trying to straddle the middle. That would mean he's not defining a strong left-wing position of support for a homosexual lifestyle- he is criticizing those on the right who are specifically anti-homosexual. The moderate position would neither strongly support nor strongly criticize homosexuality. 

To say that one must choose between either firm support for or firm support against, is to say that there can't be real nuancing in the positions we choose. Americans tend to end up in polarized camps - you may not agree with it, but it sounds to me like Wallis is being consistent with the posiion he's staked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point of what Wallis is trying to do. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s not trying to be left-wing here, he&#8217;s specifically defining himself as trying to straddle the middle. That would mean he&#8217;s not defining a strong left-wing position of support for a homosexual lifestyle- he is criticizing those on the right who are specifically anti-homosexual. The moderate position would neither strongly support nor strongly criticize homosexuality. </p>
<p>To say that one must choose between either firm support for or firm support against, is to say that there can&#8217;t be real nuancing in the positions we choose. Americans tend to end up in polarized camps - you may not agree with it, but it sounds to me like Wallis is being consistent with the posiion he&#8217;s staked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Bible</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky Bible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't agree with you more. I saw you had a letter to the editor in Sojourner's this month and I thought you were right on, they are ignoring the gay issue completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. I saw you had a letter to the editor in Sojourner&#8217;s this month and I thought you were right on, they are ignoring the gay issue completely.</p>
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