Poll update - sorry guys

Our poll on white, non-gay men in ministry is now closed. In the month it was up, we received 30 votes of which 5 were abstentions. So of 25 votes, there were 15 yes votes. That is a encouraging 60%. Unfortunately, it is also two votes short of the 2/3 super-majority needed so I guess it’s too bad for you white, non-gay, males out there.

If you could all send your ordination papers back to where you got them, we would be much abliged. Feel free to keep your papers for licensing but you will no longer be able to be primary pastors without special permission. White non-gay men will still be allowed to serve on church planting teams, pastoral teams, or other specific ministries. The official YAR statement is below*.

“Within [YAR], there are a variety of beliefs and practices regarding roles of men and women in ministry, pastoral leadership [and blogging]. Contrary to the either/or clarity that some persons wished to bring to this discussion, the practice of [YAR] is more accurately described as a continuum in which [white, non-gay men] are involved to lesser or greater degrees in congregations. Through the process of spiritual discernment it was clear that equally sincere and faithful people understand Scripture differently and come to differing conclusions regarding the practice of [white, non-gay men] in leadership and ordination.”

Really, this hurts us more than it hurts you.

In other news, mfalme’s post has promted me to make a new poll. We just want to know. We won’t kick you off if you answer wrong.

*actually, this isn’t the official YAR statement. We have no official statement or official statementers at this time. I just copied part of what someone in Lancaster Mennonite Conference had to say about their vote and did a bit of editing.

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4 Responses to “Poll update - sorry guys”

  1. Amy Says:

    I tried to vote, but it didn’t go through. So, does one more vote FOR ordination help? :)

  2. Katie Says:

    Well, that would make it 16 out of 26, or 61%. Still 2 votes short. Sorry that didn’t work for you. The guys needed 5 more yes votes without any more no votes to reach 66.66%. If you try to vote in the new poll and it doesn’t work, I’d get in touch with Eric or TimN. They should be able to help you.

  3. Lancaster Conference Credentialed Leaders Respond to Recommendation Regarding the Ordination of Women » Young Anabaptist Radicals Says:

    […] Good grief! I need to be studying, but I was sucked in by the latest poll (look to the right)[update 4.15.07 - click here for info about the poll]. Whoever put that up deserves a gold star!! Ever since I read the report about the ordination of women in the Lancaster Conference News last month I have been thinking about posting something about this (Katie already did). I’ve copied the relevant report below from the February 2007 issue. I think the poll speaks for itself; its commentary is more poignant than any I could muster. By ballots counted on January 19, the active ordained and licensed leaders of Lancaster Mennonite Conference did not affirm a recommendation from the Board of Bishops that would have allowed for the ordination of women called and affirmed by congregations to serve in ministry and pastoral leadership. The recommendation was not affirmed by the constitutionally required 66.67 percent approval. Of the 359 credentialed leaders who voted, 65.74 % affirmed the recommendation and 34.26% did not affirm the recommendation (there are 455 active credentialed leaders in LMC). Thus, the recommendation did not pass. The vote on the recommendation from the Board of Bishops came after a lengthy and significant process of spiritual discernment. […]

  4. results from the age poll » Young Anabaptist Radicals Says:

    […] For some background on this poll and others, you might check here and here. […]

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