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	<title>Comments on: The Emerging Church and Anabaptists</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 21:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruce L. Thiessen, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce L. Thiessen, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 17:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't share the fear of some of those who have commented here concerning the emerging church. Why should we, as Anabaptists, be threatened when somebody appreciates core values of yore that represent our identity and our history?  It is likely Paul McCartney criticizing a new artist who is influenced by the Beatles.  It doesn't mean that new artist is trying to fake being the Beatles, it just means that that new artist appreciates the magic of the Beatles and allows the Beatles to be a source of inspiration.  

I don't think the emerging church is a trend.  I think it stems from a genuine hunger for acceptance and a generous application of God's grace.  Now of course, some will want to capitalize upon that hunger and will want to commercialize it, but I don't think that means we need to pile on the movement as a whole.  Without such movements, the church would become a stagnant pond.  It's refresshing that some want to rid the church of pretenses and get back to what is authentic.  Is it a perfect movement?  Of course not, but I think if we are going to be afraid of something, it's more realistic to fear growing stagnant, ambiguity intolerant, legalistic and addicted to structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t share the fear of some of those who have commented here concerning the emerging church. Why should we, as Anabaptists, be threatened when somebody appreciates core values of yore that represent our identity and our history?  It is likely Paul McCartney criticizing a new artist who is influenced by the Beatles.  It doesn&#8217;t mean that new artist is trying to fake being the Beatles, it just means that that new artist appreciates the magic of the Beatles and allows the Beatles to be a source of inspiration.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the emerging church is a trend.  I think it stems from a genuine hunger for acceptance and a generous application of God&#8217;s grace.  Now of course, some will want to capitalize upon that hunger and will want to commercialize it, but I don&#8217;t think that means we need to pile on the movement as a whole.  Without such movements, the church would become a stagnant pond.  It&#8217;s refresshing that some want to rid the church of pretenses and get back to what is authentic.  Is it a perfect movement?  Of course not, but I think if we are going to be afraid of something, it&#8217;s more realistic to fear growing stagnant, ambiguity intolerant, legalistic and addicted to structure.</p>
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		<title>By: Anabaptists - dwight j. friesen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anabaptists - dwight j. friesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here&#8217;s a link to a helpful piece by William McGrath called, Anabaptists: Neither Catholics nor Protestants.  Also worth checking out is the young.anabaptistradicals.org. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Here&#8217;s a link to a helpful piece by William McGrath called, Anabaptists: Neither Catholics nor Protestants.  Also worth checking out is the young.anabaptistradicals.org. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: somasoul</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-19649</link>
		<dc:creator>somasoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave (different dave),

Some people do not quite understand the emergent movement because a lot has been said of it that does not understand it. You can go into a non-emergent church and hear things about it that are not quite true.

Still, I don't think emergent is anything. It can be anything, though perhaps not so, though maybe. Emergent doesn't know what it is, even if it knows what it wants to be. There are too many voices to pin it down. I'd be hesitant to say anything about emergent in a concrete way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave (different dave),</p>
<p>Some people do not quite understand the emergent movement because a lot has been said of it that does not understand it. You can go into a non-emergent church and hear things about it that are not quite true.</p>
<p>Still, I don&#8217;t think emergent is anything. It can be anything, though perhaps not so, though maybe. Emergent doesn&#8217;t know what it is, even if it knows what it wants to be. There are too many voices to pin it down. I&#8217;d be hesitant to say anything about emergent in a concrete way.</p>
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		<title>By: dave (different dave)</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-19644</link>
		<dc:creator>dave (different dave)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm... can I just say that it appears that Dave (with a Big D) doesn't appear to know much about the emerging church movement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm&#8230; can I just say that it appears that Dave (with a Big D) doesn&#8217;t appear to know much about the emerging church movement?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-19621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 11:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The emerging church is an apostate social network of un-regenerate people.  While Anabaptist Christians died for their total faith in Christ and His Truths, emergents seek to consolidate Christian denominations into a trendy, 21st century spiritual journey.  Sadly, foundational Truths such as the need to be Born again, repenting of sins, and living a holy and cross-bearing life, are totally absent from the emerging church movement.  The love of the world, the flesh, and the pride of life are evils that true Anabaptists of today and yester-year resolutely renounce in the name of the only Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emerging church is an apostate social network of un-regenerate people.  While Anabaptist Christians died for their total faith in Christ and His Truths, emergents seek to consolidate Christian denominations into a trendy, 21st century spiritual journey.  Sadly, foundational Truths such as the need to be Born again, repenting of sins, and living a holy and cross-bearing life, are totally absent from the emerging church movement.  The love of the world, the flesh, and the pride of life are evils that true Anabaptists of today and yester-year resolutely renounce in the name of the only Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: spooky</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-19011</link>
		<dc:creator>spooky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amused at how the "emerging" movement refers to itself as a "conversation".  Diction can't get any more "emergent" than that =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amused at how the &#8220;emerging&#8221; movement refers to itself as a &#8220;conversation&#8221;.  Diction can&#8217;t get any more &#8220;emergent&#8221; than that =)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Stone</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-18982</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of problems here. 

Firstly, you are apparently confusing emergent and with the wider emerging church and are obviously not clear where Jerrod and TallSkinnyKiwi fit into the picture. As someone closer to the action I can tell you that most of the concerns raised by evangelicals like Don Carson have to do with Emergent Village, which is indeed quite liberal, and not the wider emerging church conversation, which can be quite evangelical in some quarters. In fact, some who have been associated with the conversation, like Mark Driscoll, are very much in the Reformed tradition. Given the confusion people like yourselves often have over the similar labels, TallSkinnyKiwi recently dropped using "emerging church" language all together, just to avoid being confused with other groups which are not representative of where he is at. Many others are in the same boat.   

Secondly, before casting the first stone I suggest you actually talk to people. You'll find there are plenty committed to Jesus as the way, the truth and the life. Beware of bearing false witness.

Thirdly, while I know plent of folk in the conversation who are anabaptist influenced, few claim to be Anabaptist in a Capital A sense. They tend to draw influence from various quarters and that's just one of them. You need to listen deeper to find out what its about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of problems here. </p>
<p>Firstly, you are apparently confusing emergent and with the wider emerging church and are obviously not clear where Jerrod and TallSkinnyKiwi fit into the picture. As someone closer to the action I can tell you that most of the concerns raised by evangelicals like Don Carson have to do with Emergent Village, which is indeed quite liberal, and not the wider emerging church conversation, which can be quite evangelical in some quarters. In fact, some who have been associated with the conversation, like Mark Driscoll, are very much in the Reformed tradition. Given the confusion people like yourselves often have over the similar labels, TallSkinnyKiwi recently dropped using &#8220;emerging church&#8221; language all together, just to avoid being confused with other groups which are not representative of where he is at. Many others are in the same boat.   </p>
<p>Secondly, before casting the first stone I suggest you actually talk to people. You&#8217;ll find there are plenty committed to Jesus as the way, the truth and the life. Beware of bearing false witness.</p>
<p>Thirdly, while I know plent of folk in the conversation who are anabaptist influenced, few claim to be Anabaptist in a Capital A sense. They tend to draw influence from various quarters and that&#8217;s just one of them. You need to listen deeper to find out what its about.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie Perry</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-18980</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning the emergent church as a whole, be very careful!  Beneath the surface veeer of trendy or "vintage" Christianity,this movement has dangerous and far reaching implications. 
In a nutshell, although there are probably many well intentioned and sincere Christians, the group as a whole denies Jesus as the only way to heaven, and denies the innerancy of the bible.  I believe their goal is to bring all religions together as one.  This is NOT compatible with Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning the emergent church as a whole, be very careful!  Beneath the surface veeer of trendy or &#8220;vintage&#8221; Christianity,this movement has dangerous and far reaching implications.<br />
In a nutshell, although there are probably many well intentioned and sincere Christians, the group as a whole denies Jesus as the only way to heaven, and denies the innerancy of the bible.  I believe their goal is to bring all religions together as one.  This is NOT compatible with Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Snyder</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-4367</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "emergent" church  appears at first glance to be "anabaptist" in outlook. However, looking beneath the veneer, is it a "church" at all? What is the rock, the foundation, on which the church is built? Christ, the son of the living god. Christ crucified and reurrected. Christ, THE way to eternal life. Christ First, Foremost, and ONLY. If that must be watered down, it is not the Church of Christ, and it is NOT Anabaptist.Social conscience does not equal anabaptist Christianity (or any other kind of Christianity) The social conscience SPRINGS FROM the truth of Christ - not the other way around.

I was raised in the (then) Old Conference Mennonite church,  (now the MCEC) then shifted to the Mennonite Brethren in the seventies and after a time in the AGC returned to the MB Church

Through the swings in how we "do church" the Mennonites, even when sometimes weighted heavily towards the "social gospel", and with the "Missional" emphasis, have not totally lost sight of that basic foundation - Christ First, Foremost, and ONLY.
The Emergent movement as a whole has not yet discovered that truth.

It is perhaps good to accept some of the chastisement they heap on the established church, but be VERY carefull about accepting their solutions. A little bit of truth can be extremely dangerous when it hides falsehood behind it's veneer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;emergent&#8221; church  appears at first glance to be &#8220;anabaptist&#8221; in outlook. However, looking beneath the veneer, is it a &#8220;church&#8221; at all? What is the rock, the foundation, on which the church is built? Christ, the son of the living god. Christ crucified and reurrected. Christ, THE way to eternal life. Christ First, Foremost, and ONLY. If that must be watered down, it is not the Church of Christ, and it is NOT Anabaptist.Social conscience does not equal anabaptist Christianity (or any other kind of Christianity) The social conscience SPRINGS FROM the truth of Christ - not the other way around.</p>
<p>I was raised in the (then) Old Conference Mennonite church,  (now the MCEC) then shifted to the Mennonite Brethren in the seventies and after a time in the AGC returned to the MB Church</p>
<p>Through the swings in how we &#8220;do church&#8221; the Mennonites, even when sometimes weighted heavily towards the &#8220;social gospel&#8221;, and with the &#8220;Missional&#8221; emphasis, have not totally lost sight of that basic foundation - Christ First, Foremost, and ONLY.<br />
The Emergent movement as a whole has not yet discovered that truth.</p>
<p>It is perhaps good to accept some of the chastisement they heap on the established church, but be VERY carefull about accepting their solutions. A little bit of truth can be extremely dangerous when it hides falsehood behind it&#8217;s veneer.</p>
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		<title>By: Skylark</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-2356</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ Then am I not alone in having absolutely no idea what "emerging church" means?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ Then am I not alone in having absolutely no idea what &#8220;emerging church&#8221; means?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Westmoreland-White</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-2341</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Westmoreland-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's impossible to tell if the "emerging church" is Anabaptistic (others claim it is more Catholic or Orthodox), because the "definitions" or descriptions of emerging church--given by their own proponents--are too vague.  Almost ANYTHING not firmly connected to a denomination could be called "emerging."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s impossible to tell if the &#8220;emerging church&#8221; is Anabaptistic (others claim it is more Catholic or Orthodox), because the &#8220;definitions&#8221; or descriptions of emerging church&#8211;given by their own proponents&#8211;are too vague.  Almost ANYTHING not firmly connected to a denomination could be called &#8220;emerging.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2007/06/29/the-emerging-church-and-anabaptists/#comment-2261</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anabaptistic &lt;/i&gt;

Ha... awesome word. 

I am Anabaptistic.

And thanks for the link.</description>
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<p>Ha&#8230; awesome word. </p>
<p>I am Anabaptistic.</p>
<p>And thanks for the link.</p>
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