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	<title>Comments on: When should we insist on peace and nonviolence?</title>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to me to see how extremely foreign the idea of being peaceful really is. I am a teacher in an inner-city school and when I tell my students that it is never ok to hit/hurt someone even if the other person started it they look at me like I have lost my mind. Maybe it is just because I am such new convert to peacemaking I don't know but I think that we really need to be all out about peace because it is so if we aren't then many people may never even give thought to the subject. Maybe that is just my midwest US perspective because peacemaking and non-violence never even enter the minds of most of my peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to me to see how extremely foreign the idea of being peaceful really is. I am a teacher in an inner-city school and when I tell my students that it is never ok to hit/hurt someone even if the other person started it they look at me like I have lost my mind. Maybe it is just because I am such new convert to peacemaking I don&#8217;t know but I think that we really need to be all out about peace because it is so if we aren&#8217;t then many people may never even give thought to the subject. Maybe that is just my midwest US perspective because peacemaking and non-violence never even enter the minds of most of my peers.</p>
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		<title>By: db</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been thinking about this question in the broader sense - when should we insist on ANY theological point? How do we live and interact with people who might believe differently? Certainly there's some case-by-case assessment that must occur, but what should be the framework for deciding when to speak?

in my opinion (as John Ballard stated) the peace churches need to retain their identity as places that encourage conscientious objection to military service. I would say that this should come up in the context of defining the church as an institution separate from the countries where its members reside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this question in the broader sense - when should we insist on ANY theological point? How do we live and interact with people who might believe differently? Certainly there&#8217;s some case-by-case assessment that must occur, but what should be the framework for deciding when to speak?</p>
<p>in my opinion (as John Ballard stated) the peace churches need to retain their identity as places that encourage conscientious objection to military service. I would say that this should come up in the context of defining the church as an institution separate from the countries where its members reside.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ballard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is vitally important that the peace churches retain their identities with conscientious objection. In this period of the so-called "all-volunteer" military the need is more compelling than ever because when the draft resumes -- &lt;a href="http://hootsbuddy.blogspot.com/2005/06/military-draft-will-resume.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;and I am covinced that the day will come&lt;/a&gt; -- a solid support system for those who registering as conscientious objectors will be needed once again. 

I was drafted as a CO in 1965 and served the normal two years on active duty in the Army Medical Service Corps. Most people never know the facts about the draft and what it means to be clasified 1-A (conscription material, Army), 1-A-O (CO in uniform) or 1-0 (CO in civilian capacity). There are no CO's in any other branch of service or any Army MOS other than Medical Service. 

This basic information strikes most young people like a fireign language but it is literally life and death information when the time comes. And there is much, much more to be learned. Not everyone is good material to become a warrior, and (sadly) not everyone is a good candidate for registering as a CO. 

The peace churches have a compelling duty to keep the sparks alive, ready to light the fire when the need returns. And it will. 
(That's a peaceful twist on "keep your powder dry.")</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is vitally important that the peace churches retain their identities with conscientious objection. In this period of the so-called &#8220;all-volunteer&#8221; military the need is more compelling than ever because when the draft resumes &#8212; <a href="http://hootsbuddy.blogspot.com/2005/06/military-draft-will-resume.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://hootsbuddy.blogspot.com/2005/06/military-draft-will-resume.html');" rel="nofollow">and I am covinced that the day will come</a> &#8212; a solid support system for those who registering as conscientious objectors will be needed once again. </p>
<p>I was drafted as a CO in 1965 and served the normal two years on active duty in the Army Medical Service Corps. Most people never know the facts about the draft and what it means to be clasified 1-A (conscription material, Army), 1-A-O (CO in uniform) or 1-0 (CO in civilian capacity). There are no CO&#8217;s in any other branch of service or any Army MOS other than Medical Service. </p>
<p>This basic information strikes most young people like a fireign language but it is literally life and death information when the time comes. And there is much, much more to be learned. Not everyone is good material to become a warrior, and (sadly) not everyone is a good candidate for registering as a CO. </p>
<p>The peace churches have a compelling duty to keep the sparks alive, ready to light the fire when the need returns. And it will.<br />
(That&#8217;s a peaceful twist on &#8220;keep your powder dry.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: IndieFaith</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndieFaith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making my return to the Mennonite church as a pastor (with a number of years being spent in Anglican and Baptist churches) I have wrestled in fresh way with the question of peace.  In a recent &lt;a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/351458/He-has-Destoyed-the-Dividing-Wall" rel="nofollow"&gt;sermon &lt;/a&gt; on unity I used the passage from Ephesians 2:14-22.  By the time I was finishing my sermon I realized that I traveled further in articulating my theology of peace then if I would have sat down and explicitly approached it.  Sometimes peace has to come in sideways.  I don't have much time further articulate but I would also suggest Chris Huebner's (prof at Canadian Mennonite University) recent book, &lt;i&gt;A Precarious Peace&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making my return to the Mennonite church as a pastor (with a number of years being spent in Anglican and Baptist churches) I have wrestled in fresh way with the question of peace.  In a recent <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/351458/He-has-Destoyed-the-Dividing-Wall" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://www.scribd.com/doc/351458/He-has-Destoyed-the-Dividing-Wall');" rel="nofollow">sermon </a> on unity I used the passage from Ephesians 2:14-22.  By the time I was finishing my sermon I realized that I traveled further in articulating my theology of peace then if I would have sat down and explicitly approached it.  Sometimes peace has to come in sideways.  I don&#8217;t have much time further articulate but I would also suggest Chris Huebner&#8217;s (prof at Canadian Mennonite University) recent book, <i>A Precarious Peace</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, it isn't what we say about nonviolence that is problematic, but what we fail to say *in addition* to nonviolence.

For example, if the only thing we have to say in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is that Palestinians should not throw rocks because it is violence, then all we are doing is allowing injustice to be perpetuated, because we aren't doing anything to address the underlying reasons why Palestinians want to throw rocks or why Israelis point guns at them.  

I think we should advocate for nonviolence, but we need to be willing to engage with the entire messy problem and its context, rather than just the flashy endpoints where violence happens.  So, no, Palestians should not throw rocks, but more importantly, we need to advocate for a Just solution to the occupation of Palestine, so Palestinians don't feel the need to throw rocks anymore.

And, it might be that we simply don't know enough to have anything meaningful to say.  For example, if people are hungry and steal bread, we recognize it as wrong at some level.  But if the only thing we say is that stealing bread is wrong, and don't address the larger question of why people are hungry, then it might be better to not say much until we have better solutions to offer, instead of merely condemning the hungry for stealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, it isn&#8217;t what we say about nonviolence that is problematic, but what we fail to say *in addition* to nonviolence.</p>
<p>For example, if the only thing we have to say in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is that Palestinians should not throw rocks because it is violence, then all we are doing is allowing injustice to be perpetuated, because we aren&#8217;t doing anything to address the underlying reasons why Palestinians want to throw rocks or why Israelis point guns at them.  </p>
<p>I think we should advocate for nonviolence, but we need to be willing to engage with the entire messy problem and its context, rather than just the flashy endpoints where violence happens.  So, no, Palestians should not throw rocks, but more importantly, we need to advocate for a Just solution to the occupation of Palestine, so Palestinians don&#8217;t feel the need to throw rocks anymore.</p>
<p>And, it might be that we simply don&#8217;t know enough to have anything meaningful to say.  For example, if people are hungry and steal bread, we recognize it as wrong at some level.  But if the only thing we say is that stealing bread is wrong, and don&#8217;t address the larger question of why people are hungry, then it might be better to not say much until we have better solutions to offer, instead of merely condemning the hungry for stealing.</p>
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