Comments on: Christarchy: Support groups for the Jesus revolution http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/ let's activate something Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:25:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: In the Shadow of Classist Ethnocentrism: Prophetic Voices Against “The Status Quo” » Young Anabaptist Radicals http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7393 In the Shadow of Classist Ethnocentrism: Prophetic Voices Against “The Status Quo” » Young Anabaptist Radicals Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:41:43 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7393 [...] This is taking a new thread of thought from somasoul’s comments in the “Christarchy!” post Lora wrote (thanks Lora) I find often on this blog a tendency to attack what is seen as the “Christian” status quo, readily identified as the following: [...] […] This is taking a new thread of thought from somasoul’s comments in the “Christarchy!” post Lora wrote (thanks Lora) I find often on this blog a tendency to attack what is seen as the “Christian” status quo, readily identified as the following: […]

]]> By: somasoul http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7278 somasoul Sun, 06 Jan 2008 00:01:33 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7278 I was just adding my viewpoint of the current situation with the American Church. The status quo is........bad. It's really terrible. I quit church earlier this year because the people pissed me off. Excuse the language. Churches spend money on carpet and new lighting and the next building project, hiring the next gopher/assistant pastor/worship leader.......is running a church a hobby? A couple months ago I was trying to get a church who had a ton of space to let me use some of it once a month for Xian Rock shows. This church bought a huge space, an empty grocery store, and the space I wanted to use they didn't use at all. It was empty. I offered them all the take from the door minus a hundred bucks. The pastor thought it was a good idea. Once word got out that Xian metal bands and Xian punk bands would play and that the event might attract some kids who might smoke or swear some members of the church had the event shut down before it ever began. They were concerned that some of their kids from their church might show up and be influenced by these bad kids that may or may not ever show up. Christians today spend money on facilities. They hide in the suburban villages away from people. They look, feel, and taste like everyone else. They are terrified people. They are terrified of prostitutes and drug dealers. They are terrified of cigarettes and homosexuals and dirty T-shirts. American Idol and rampant American Consumerism are A-OKAY! The status quo for Christian "normalcy" is a life of complacency and apathy and other negative words that end in the letter y. Sometimes you need to shake that up. I was just adding my viewpoint of the current situation with the American Church.

The status quo is……..bad. It’s really terrible. I quit church earlier this year because the people pissed me off. Excuse the language. Churches spend money on carpet and new lighting and the next building project, hiring the next gopher/assistant pastor/worship leader…….is running a church a hobby?

A couple months ago I was trying to get a church who had a ton of space to let me use some of it once a month for Xian Rock shows. This church bought a huge space, an empty grocery store, and the space I wanted to use they didn’t use at all. It was empty. I offered them all the take from the door minus a hundred bucks. The pastor thought it was a good idea. Once word got out that Xian metal bands and Xian punk bands would play and that the event might attract some kids who might smoke or swear some members of the church had the event shut down before it ever began.

They were concerned that some of their kids from their church might show up and be influenced by these bad kids that may or may not ever show up.

Christians today spend money on facilities. They hide in the suburban villages away from people. They look, feel, and taste like everyone else. They are terrified people. They are terrified of prostitutes and drug dealers. They are terrified of cigarettes and homosexuals and dirty T-shirts. American Idol and rampant American Consumerism are A-OKAY! The status quo for Christian “normalcy” is a life of complacency and apathy and other negative words that end in the letter y.

Sometimes you need to shake that up.

]]> By: Lora http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7273 Lora Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:27:57 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7273 Somasoul, I think I see where you're going but I'm not totally sure. Care to add in a few more lines? Somasoul, I think I see where you’re going but I’m not totally sure. Care to add in a few more lines?

]]> By: somasoul http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7229 somasoul Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:03:15 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2008/01/03/christarchy-support-groups-for-the-jesus-revolution/#comment-7229 Challenge the status quo? For Christians: Economics: Seemingly exactly like non-Christians. Make money. Buy SUVs. Move to the suburbs or a rural area. Hide. Buy a pool. Get a big nice house. Political: Exactly like non-Christians. Become enveloped in political process'. Despise the other "team". Buy political bumper stickers. Use the Bible as justification to worship the state. Social: Exactly like non-Christians. Watch TV. Religious: Run away from urban areas. Be afraid of drug dealers and prostitutes. Go to church. Despise sinners. Use the Bible as justification to worship the state. Challenge the status quo?

For Christians:

Economics: Seemingly exactly like non-Christians. Make money. Buy SUVs. Move to the suburbs or a rural area. Hide. Buy a pool. Get a big nice house.

Political: Exactly like non-Christians. Become enveloped in political process’. Despise the other “team”. Buy political bumper stickers. Use the Bible as justification to worship the state.

Social: Exactly like non-Christians. Watch TV.

Religious: Run away from urban areas. Be afraid of drug dealers and prostitutes. Go to church. Despise sinners. Use the Bible as justification to worship the state.

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