Comments on: The plank of the Forgotten War and the splinter of Muslim rage http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2012/10/01/the-plank-of-the-forgotten-war-and-the-splinter-of-muslim-rage/ let's activate something Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:28:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Jnana Hodson http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2012/10/01/the-plank-of-the-forgotten-war-and-the-splinter-of-muslim-rage/#comment-460557 Jnana Hodson Mon, 08 Oct 2012 12:17:35 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/?p=864#comment-460557 Even if we haven't forgotten we're at war, our nation certainly seems to be numb to its awareness. What amazes me in all of this is how the same voices that cry out so loudly against taxation and public spending (or at least the national debt) are also the most vociferous ones in support of military spending -- the largest and most wasteful of all. Can't they put two and two together? Or is that how one continues to get away with murder? Even if we haven’t forgotten we’re at war, our nation certainly seems to be numb to its awareness. What amazes me in all of this is how the same voices that cry out so loudly against taxation and public spending (or at least the national debt) are also the most vociferous ones in support of military spending — the largest and most wasteful of all. Can’t they put two and two together? Or is that how one continues to get away with murder?

]]> By: Joseph P http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2012/10/01/the-plank-of-the-forgotten-war-and-the-splinter-of-muslim-rage/#comment-459939 Joseph P Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:13:43 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/?p=864#comment-459939 TimB, you've basically just taken TimN's own confession and hurled it back in his face in the form of accusation. But perhaps the incendiary accusation is necessary to get folks to pay attention. I largely agree with your critique of the anti-war movement basically amounting to partisan politics. It's too bad and for many of us its a plank to be removed from our own eye. For others (me), I think we just got burned out on political involvement once the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were a fact of life. One question: where do I look to find evidence of the anti-war right sticking to their peace guns? Are they marching on Washington with clothed celebrities? Can we lefties join? TimB, you’ve basically just taken TimN’s own confession and hurled it back in his face in the form of accusation.

But perhaps the incendiary accusation is necessary to get folks to pay attention. I largely agree with your critique of the anti-war movement basically amounting to partisan politics. It’s too bad and for many of us its a plank to be removed from our own eye. For others (me), I think we just got burned out on political involvement once the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were a fact of life.

One question: where do I look to find evidence of the anti-war right sticking to their peace guns? Are they marching on Washington with clothed celebrities? Can we lefties join?

]]> By: Tim B http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/2012/10/01/the-plank-of-the-forgotten-war-and-the-splinter-of-muslim-rage/#comment-458975 Tim B Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:13:50 +0000 http://young.anabaptistradicals.org/?p=864#comment-458975 I might be cruelly honest here. My apologies ahead of time. I think Americans are so used to perpetual war at this point it's hard to care. Neither leftists who oppose the wars nor rightest's who support the military have any reason to vocalize about it. The Islam-Wars continue unabated, a perpetual death machine churning bodies under it's wheels. We've all seen it for so long it doesn't attract attention. Secondly, no one can speak against the military. It is THE NATIONAL RELIGION. Pro football games have fighter jets roar above the stadiums, the games feature live feed of soldiers somewhere dusty rooting for their respective teams. Don't question the wars. Don't question the troops. Thank you for your service to our very fine nation. Continue being honorable and all glorious, OOHRAH! We must let them continue bringing hope and democracy to others in the name of our Glorious Nation, Amen. Do we question the gods, Tim? Lastly, you abandoned us, Tim. I don't mean to be a prick here, but once you leftist/progressives got your man in office, you left us. Just like my wife would if Matt Damon asked her to marry him. Us conservatives and libertarians for peace, we stood with you when Bush was in office. We put ideals before politics. But you progressives? No. All talk, no walk. Obama continues and amps up drone strikes. The left is silent. Obama continues said strikes past when he was legally authorized to do so, even when congress said "NO!" The left is silent. Obama continues the operation of Gitmo. The left is silent. Obama co-ordinates assassinations on American citizens. The left is silent. On and on and on. The left never would have let Bush get away with it. Never. They'd organize some sort of radical protest, maybe with naked celebrities. But they got their man, who knew exactly how to Community Organize the left into a shockingly quiet subset of his party's radical fringe. Give them bread, circuses, and a black Democrat and we'll hear them no more. And us, the anti-war right? We continue to stick to our peace-guns. FOR SHAME! FOR SHAME! FOR SHAME! Where'd you go, Tim? On this issue, we were together. But the left? Nope, at it's heart it was about partisan politics. Just calling it like I see it, because that's how it exactly is. I might be cruelly honest here. My apologies ahead of time.

I think Americans are so used to perpetual war at this point it’s hard to care. Neither leftists who oppose the wars nor rightest’s who support the military have any reason to vocalize about it. The Islam-Wars continue unabated, a perpetual death machine churning bodies under it’s wheels. We’ve all seen it for so long it doesn’t attract attention.

Secondly, no one can speak against the military. It is THE NATIONAL RELIGION. Pro football games have fighter jets roar above the stadiums, the games feature live feed of soldiers somewhere dusty rooting for their respective teams. Don’t question the wars. Don’t question the troops. Thank you for your service to our very fine nation. Continue being honorable and all glorious, OOHRAH! We must let them continue bringing hope and democracy to others in the name of our Glorious Nation, Amen. Do we question the gods, Tim?

Lastly, you abandoned us, Tim. I don’t mean to be a prick here, but once you leftist/progressives got your man in office, you left us. Just like my wife would if Matt Damon asked her to marry him. Us conservatives and libertarians for peace, we stood with you when Bush was in office. We put ideals before politics. But you progressives? No. All talk, no walk. Obama continues and amps up drone strikes. The left is silent. Obama continues said strikes past when he was legally authorized to do so, even when congress said “NO!” The left is silent. Obama continues the operation of Gitmo. The left is silent. Obama co-ordinates assassinations on American citizens. The left is silent. On and on and on. The left never would have let Bush get away with it. Never. They’d organize some sort of radical protest, maybe with naked celebrities. But they got their man, who knew exactly how to Community Organize the left into a shockingly quiet subset of his party’s radical fringe. Give them bread, circuses, and a black Democrat and we’ll hear them no more. And us, the anti-war right? We continue to stick to our peace-guns. FOR SHAME! FOR SHAME! FOR SHAME!

Where’d you go, Tim? On this issue, we were together. But the left? Nope, at it’s heart it was about partisan politics.

Just calling it like I see it, because that’s how it exactly is.

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